Comments on: Will the Internet become obsolete? http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/2011/07/13/will-the-internet-become-obsolete/ Shedding Light on the Hidden World of Embedded Systems Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:18:37 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: O.A.Z. @ TI http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/2011/07/13/will-the-internet-become-obsolete/#comment-7478 O.A.Z. @ TI Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:21:52 +0000 http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/?p=590#comment-7478 Interesting. The New Scientist has an article along the same lines but is more focused on real threats to the internet as it is known today. The article is: "Welcome to the age of the splinternet" - Openness is the internet's great strength – and weakness. With powerful forces carving it up, is its golden age coming to an end? See: www.newscientist.com/.../mg21128211.900-welcome-to-the-age-of-the-splinternet.html Interesting. The New Scientist has an article along the same lines but is more focused on real threats to the internet as it is known today. The article is: “Welcome to the age of the splinternet” – Openness is the internet’s great strength – and weakness. With powerful forces carving it up, is its golden age coming to an end?

See: http://www.newscientist.com/…/mg21128211.900-welcome-to-the-age-of-the-splinternet.html

]]> By: R.K. @ TI http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/2011/07/13/will-the-internet-become-obsolete/#comment-7477 R.K. @ TI Wed, 10 Aug 2011 23:21:17 +0000 http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/?p=590#comment-7477 This post is amazing. I think that, as you suggested, the definition of the Internet will be what changes over the next few decades. That is, its underlying infrastructure and ostensible use cases will change (think about what Web 10.0 will let us do). However, data's mass accessibility/storage/transmission over long distances will be important and useful until we can figure out a way to genetically engineer people who already know everything and can communicate telepathically. This post is amazing. I think that, as you suggested, the definition of the Internet will be what changes over the next few decades. That is, its underlying infrastructure and ostensible use cases will change (think about what Web 10.0 will let us do). However, data’s mass accessibility/storage/transmission over long distances will be important and useful until we can figure out a way to genetically engineer people who already know everything and can communicate telepathically.

]]> By: Ray Van De Walker http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/2011/07/13/will-the-internet-become-obsolete/#comment-7137 Ray Van De Walker Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:52:06 +0000 http://www.embeddedinsights.com/channels/?p=590#comment-7137 No. The internet is a way to move information. Since information will not become obsolete, neither will the internet. Also, as a "dumb" network with minimal requirements and a very efficient line-coding, the internet kills and eats single-use competitors. The basic kill and eat sequence is: Single use competitor makes the market. Internet is added to the application environment, probably for e-mail or web access. Some internet standard adds a minor codicil in an RFC. The new internet standard works in more places with less equipment. Since more people can receive it, than the original, it displaces the original. This happened to UUCP for e-mail (the most difficult early competitor, I think), to fax for document transmission (displaced by e-mail attachments), to cassettes and CDs for audio, and video and telephony (LTE is cementing the doom of conventional telephony). I do expect to see some changes: IPv6, of course. Cached streaming is much cheaper when it is integrated with routing; Vint Cerf has recently been doing experiments with that. Actual data channels will change, getting both faster, and cheaper. In some cases it may also get much cheaper, and slower (as in internet 0) Internet devices will get cheaper. Something very close to internet-enabled smart dust is already a reality. (See the contiki software project, IPv6 in 20K of code, running on microwatts of average power) No. The internet is a way to move information. Since information will not become obsolete, neither will the internet. Also, as a “dumb” network with minimal requirements and a very efficient line-coding, the internet kills and eats single-use competitors.

The basic kill and eat sequence is: Single use competitor makes the market. Internet is added to the application environment, probably for e-mail or web access. Some internet standard adds a minor codicil in an RFC. The new internet standard works in more places with less equipment. Since more people can receive it, than the original, it displaces the original. This happened to UUCP for e-mail (the most difficult early competitor, I think), to fax for document transmission (displaced by e-mail attachments), to cassettes and CDs for audio, and video and telephony (LTE is cementing the doom of conventional telephony).

I do expect to see some changes:

IPv6, of course.

Cached streaming is much cheaper when it is integrated with routing; Vint Cerf has recently been doing experiments with that.

Actual data channels will change, getting both faster, and cheaper. In some cases it may also get much cheaper, and slower (as in internet 0)

Internet devices will get cheaper. Something very close to internet-enabled smart dust is already a reality. (See the contiki software project, IPv6 in 20K of code, running on microwatts of average power)

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